Nihilne te delectat umquam -video, quicum loquar-, te igitur, Torquate, ipsum per se nihil delectat? Sin laboramus, quis est, qui alienae modum statuat industriae? Sed tamen enitar et, si minus multa mihi occurrent, non fugiam ista popularia. Qui si omnes veri erunt, ut Epicuri ratio docet, tum denique poterit aliquid cognosci et percipi.

Uterque enim summo bono fruitur, id est voluptate. Quid autem habent admirationis, cum prope accesseris? Nam Pyrrho, Aristo, Erillus iam diu abiecti. Sed fortuna fortis; Sed quid minus probandum quam esse aliquem beatum nec satis beatum? Quid enim me prohiberet Epicureum esse, si probarem, quae ille diceret? Tu enim ista lenius, hic Stoicorum more nos vexat. Ita multo sanguine profuso in laetitia et in victoria est mortuus. Hoc etsi multimodis reprehendi potest, tamen accipio, quod dant. Iam id ipsum absurdum, maximum malum neglegi.

Si verbum sequimur, primum longius verbum praepositum quam bonum. Sed in rebus apertissimis nimium longi sumus. Quare attende, quaeso. Omnes enim iucundum motum, quo sensus hilaretur. Traditur, inquit, ab Epicuro ratio neglegendi doloris. Sed ad haec, nisi molestum est, habeo quae velim. Tum Torquatus: Prorsus, inquit, assentior; Sed ad bona praeterita redeamus.

Cur id non ita fit? Qui-vere falsone, quaerere mittimus-dicitur oculis se privasse; Eam tum adesse, cum dolor omnis absit; Quid autem habent admirationis, cum prope accesseris? Color egregius, integra valitudo, summa gratia, vita denique conferta voluptatum omnium varietate. Sedulo, inquam, faciam. Dici enim nihil potest verius. Ad quorum et cognitionem et usum iam corroborati natura ipsa praeeunte deducimur.

Piso, familiaris noster, et alia multa et hoc loco Stoicos irridebat: Quid enim? Quid, quod homines infima fortuna, nulla spe rerum gerendarum, opifices denique delectantur historia? Restatis igitur vos; Quae cum magnifice primo dici viderentur, considerata minus probabantur. Quem Tiberina descensio festo

illo die tanto gaudio affecit, quanto L. Conferam avum tuum Drusum cum C. Sed in rebus apertissimis nimium longi sumus.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Verum tamen cum de rebus grandioribus dicas, ipsae res verba rapiunt; Quid enim me prohiberet Epicureum esse, si probarem, quae ille diceret? Tamen aberramus a proposito, et, ne longius, prorsus, inquam, Piso, si ista mala sunt, placet. Inscite autem medicinae et gubernationis ultimum cum ultimo sapientiae comparatur. Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Et ego: Piso, inquam, si est quisquam, qui acute in causis videre soleat quae res agatur. Huic mori optimum esse propter desperationem sapientiae, illi propter spem vivere.

Familiares nostros, credo, Sironem dicis et Philodemum, cum optimos viros, tum homines doctissimos. Cum praesertim illa perdiscere ludus esset. Quam si explicavisset, non tam haesitaret. Eorum enim omnium multa praetermittentium, dum eligant aliquid, quod sequantur, quasi curta sententia; Modo etiam paulum ad dexteram de via declinavi, ut ad Pericli sepulcrum accederem. Non dolere, inquam, istud quam vim habeat postea videro; Minime vero, inquit ille, consentit. Nam quibus rebus efficiuntur voluptates, eae non sunt in potestate sapientis. Estne, quaeso, inquam, sitienti in bibendo voluptas? Quod idem cum vestri faciant, non satis magnam tribuunt inventoribus gratiam.

Neque enim disputari sine reprehensione nec cum iracundia aut pertinacia recte disputari potest. Bork Idem iste, inquam, de voluptate quid sentit? Bork Neque solum ea communia, verum etiam paria esse dixerunt. Putabam equidem satis, inquit, me dixisse. Tu enim ista lenius, hic Stoicorum more nos vexat. In quibus doctissimi illi veteres inesse quiddam caeleste et divinum putaverunt. Quae cum essent dicta, finem fecimus et ambulandi et disputandi. Habes, inquam, Cato, formam eorum, de quibus loquor, philosophorum.

Memini me adesse P. Scaevolam M. Esse enim quam vellet iniquus iustus

poterat inpune. Nunc omni virtuti vitium contrario nomine opponitur. Theophrasti igitur, inquit, tibi liber ille placet de beata vita? Apparet statim, quae sint officia, quae actiones.

Huic mori optimum esse propter desperationem sapientiae, illi propter spem vivere. Non pugnem cum homine, cur tantum habeat in natura boni; Si quicquam extra virtutem habeatur in bonis. Maximas vero virtutes iacere omnis necesse est voluptate dominante. Et ille ridens: Video, inquit, quid agas; Quia dolori non voluptas contraria est, sed doloris privatio.

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