Mene ergo et Triarium dignos existimas, apud quos turpiter loquare? Incommoda autem et commoda-ita enim estmata et dustmata appello-communia esse voluerunt, paria noluerunt. Iis igitur est difficilius satis facere, qui se Latina scripta dicunt contemnere. Sequitur disserendi ratio cognitioque naturae; Hinc ceteri particulas arripere conati suam quisque videro voluit afferre sententiam. Neque solum ea communia, verum etiam paria esse dixerunt. Age, inquies, ista parva sunt. Nihil opus est exemplis hoc facere longius.

Alterum significari idem, ut si diceretur, officia media omnia aut pleraque servantem vivere. Suo genere perveniant ad extremum; Vadem te ad mortem tyranno dabis pro amico, ut Pythagoreus ille Siculo fecit tyranno? Sic enim censent, oportunitatis esse beate vivere. At ille non pertimuit saneque fidenter: Istis quidem ipsis verbis, inquit;

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. An me, inquis, tam amentem putas, ut apud imperitos isto modo loquar? Sed eum qui audiebant, quoad poterant, defendebant sententiam suam. Huius, Lyco, oratione locuples, rebus ipsis ielunior. Deinde disputat, quod cuiusque generis animantium statui deceat extremum. Scaevola tribunus plebis ferret ad plebem vellentne de ea re quaeri.

Eorum enim est haec querela, qui sibi cari sunt seseque diligunt. Ita multo sanguine profuso in laetitia et in victoria est mortuus. Homines optimi non intellegunt totam rationem everti, si ita res se habeat. Quare conare, quaeso. Omnia contraria, quos etiam insanos esse vultis. Restincta enim sitis stabilitatem voluptatis habet, inquit, illa autem voluptas ipsius restinctionis in motu est.

Et ille ridens: Video, inquit, quid agas; Respondent extrema primis, media utrisque, omnia omnibus. Philosophi autem in suis lectulis plerumque moriuntur. Commoda autem et incommoda in eo genere sunt, quae praeposita et reiecta diximus; Idem fecisset Epicurus, si sententiam hanc, quae nunc Hieronymi est,

coniunxisset cum Aristippi vetere sententia. Ita nemo beato beatior. Compensabatur, inquit, cum summis doloribus laetitia. Sed ad haec, nisi molestum est, habeo quae velim. Cur igitur, inquam, res tam dissimiles eodem nomine appellas? Sed non sunt in eo genere tantae commoditates corporis tamque productae temporibus tamque multae. Et quidem, inquit, vehementer errat;

Hoc dixerit potius Ennius: Nimium boni est, cui nihil est mali. Nam de summo mox, ut dixi, videbimus et ad id explicandum disputationem omnem conferemus. Cur igitur, inquam, res tam dissimiles eodem nomine appellas? Nihil opus est exemplis hoc facere longius. Iam quae corporis sunt, ea nec auctoritatem cum animi partibus, comparandam et cognitionem habent faciliorem. Qui autem esse poteris, nisi te amor ipse ceperit?

Expectoque quid ad id, quod quaerebam, respondeas. Age sane, inquam. Sed potestne rerum maior esse dissensio? Multa sunt dicta ab antiquis de contemnendis ac despiciendis rebus humanis; Qui-vere falsone, quaerere mittimus-dicitur oculis se privasse; Quid igitur dubitamus in tota eius natura quaerere quid sit effectum?

Et quidem iure fortasse, sed tamen non gravissimum est testimonium multitudinis. Sed ne, dum huic obsequor, vobis molestus sim. Videsne quam sit magna dissensio? Nihilne te delectat umquam -video, quicum loquar-, te igitur, Torquate, ipsum per se nihil delectat? Non est ista, inquam, Piso, magna dissensio. Frater et T. Teneo, inquit, finem illi videri nihil dolere. Non igitur potestis voluptate omnia dirigentes aut tueri aut retinere virtutem. Et quidem, inquit, vehementer errat; Theophrastum tamen adhibeamus ad pleraque, dum modo plus in virtute teneamus, quam ille tenuit, firmitatis et roboris.

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Duo Reges: constructio interrete. Itaque hoc frequenter dici solet a vobis, non intellegere nos, quam dicat Epicurus voluptatem.

Ergo adhuc, quantum equidem intellego, causa non videtur fuisse mutandi nominis. Eorum enim omnium multa praetermittentium, dum eligant aliquid, quod sequantur, quasi curta sententia; Invidiosum nomen est, infame, suspectum. Itaque eos id agere, ut a se dolores, morbos, debilitates repellant. Atqui eorum nihil est eius generis, ut sit in fine atque extrerno bonorum. Nec vero alia sunt quaerenda contra Carneadeam illam sententiam. Quo modo autem optimum, si bonum praeterea nullum est? Quid ait Aristoteles reliquique Platonis alumni?